„All of us are afraid to stop and take a look into the abyss, and we forget that that abyss is part of us (…)”
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First of all, we’d like to congratulate you on a very well-done album. You’re pretty new to the scene, so could you talk a bit about the process of creating Da’at?
Thanks, we appreciate it very much. I start by saying that in reality the band was born several years ago, and since then we have never stopped writing music. We are born as an old school black metal band, but we never set the limits, and over the years we have assimilated many influences from various metal and non-metal genres. Ours was an evolutionary process that led us to experiment. Da’at is the result of these first experiments.
The process of thinking up and composing the album often costs artists a lot of blood, sweat and tears. How has that been for you? It must be a feat to create music with such a negative emotional charge. How do you do that? Do you tend toward small steps and build note by note? Or does the inspiration strike suddenly and there is this moment of illumination when everything falls into place?
Composing music is a way to externalize what we have inside, for us it has always been a fairly simple and direct process. We never had a precise method, sometimes sleepless nights and moments of loneliness helped in the drafting of texts and some riffs, other times we composed improvising the whole song from beginning to end.
When listening to the album, you’re filled with the desire to escape from the mundane everyday life. Is this need for escape your reason for creating music?
The desire to escape from everyday life, from places and ordinary people is always present. Sometimes it happens to have our senses polluted by the sight, by the smells, by the voices we have around every single day, run away to distant and isolated places is one of the methods to purify ourselves from people and societies. From this point of view, our music creation is a way to purify ourselves, but instead of isolating ourselves in a distant place, we aim to isolate ourselves in ourselves.
In today’s world a human is a pretty lonely creature. Melancholy is one of the main feelings invoked in your music, and listening to Da’at deepens this sense of loneliness even more. Was that intentional?
Our music and our lyrics are strongly influenced by themes such as loneliness, death, misanthropy and of course also melancholy, so it is easy enough to be able to perceive them listening to the album. What we compose is nothing but the outpouring of the negative feelings and sensations that we carry within. We all possess a space in which we enclose the most obscure parts of our lives, thoughts and experiences that we tend to forget, a pandora’s box. All of us are afraid to stop and take a look into the abyss, and we forget that that abyss is part of us. It is not our intention to indoctrinate the listener to certain themes, we merely open the vessel, we express what we see inside and what we feel in our mind and body. It is up to the listener to let it go and get an interpretation of himself in order to better understand the feelings that torment him.
If you look at the musical insides of Da’at you can find a lot of references to various genres. Could you share what music inspires you, what are your musical influences?
Music is a form of art and as such must transmit emotions, it must leave its mark, and what has the power to leave something impressed, it is worth being listened to. This is what we listen. Over the years our music has been largely influenced by our various musical tastes, especially from Black Metal and Doom Metal and then later from Post-Rock, Post-Hardcore and Drone. But among the most significant groups in our evolution there are certainly Amenra with whom we had the honor to share the stage, Xasthur, Celtic Frost (Monotheist), Triptykon and Neurosis.
The female vocals throughout the album complement the content very well and seem an integral part of it. How did you come to work with Federica Priscilla Nicodemo?
We had known Federica for many years, in addition to being an outstanding singer she is our friend and she is also the girlfriend of our vocalist. In the past she appeared as a guest in a few gigs, this gave us the opportunity to see how her voice connects well with our music. Memento was composed almost entirely by Federica and Discissus, ask her to collaborate on Da’at was a fairly obvious move.
Could you talk a bit about what brought about the collaboration with the ukrainian label?
The search for the label lasted months, we were looking for a direct contact with foreign countries but it was not easy to find someone interested in investing in our music. We contacted Vacula Production after a long time under the advice of those who had already collaborated with them, and they immediately became interested in us. Months later we can say that we are very satisfied with how they managed the publication and promotion of Da’at.
Playing music that is so demanding for the listener must be quite a challenge. How do your songs perform live?
The stage is a great place to express our unconscious. Our gigs are minimal, we play almost in the dark, giving our backs to the audience. In those moments, all the people we have around completely disappear, we create the atmosphere to make the band become a set of single entities, each one in solitude in their own meditative trance. It is a ritual in which band and audience are connected solely and entirely by what we feel inside. We have never been interested in receiving applause or playing in front of two or a thousand of people, we think that even a single sincere emotional connection with a person is more rewarding than hundreds of people who listen with their ears and mind closed.
Today’s music fan is a demanding listener. One of the reasons is the extremely easy access to music online – both the good things and the bad ones. In Poland we have several bands with aesthetic similar to yours that make their music –great music we might add – to have an outlet for their own creative energy, to make the music they themselves want to hear and not something that others want them to make. Is fan feedback important to you?
Creating music is an extremely intimate act, we do it only and exclusively for ourselves. We have never created music with the intent of pleasing listeners. So, no, fan feedback is not important to us.
Are the landscapes conjured up on the album reflections of yourselves? We’re asking because sometimes a creator just needs to get themselves in the right mood or trance and the rest seems to fall into place.
Yes, everything in Da’at from the music to the atmospheres we create are the reflection of ourselves. We have created a meditative concept, which has become the symbol of the band, where are contained some key words concerning our phase of inner research. „Abyssus (abyss) – Tempus (time) – Oblivione (oblivion) – Spatium (space) – Inanis (void) – Vita (life) – Mors (death)” are somehow synonymous with each other, they are wide unknown places that we live and perceive every day, they are planes in which it is easy to fall and get lost at the very thought. We are the nothing that wanders in these places, perceiving its vastness as branches that extend towards the sky. It is from this feeling that our music is created.
Nowadays bands seem to spring up everywhere in droves, so it becomes quite difficult to surprise the listener – not even with something new, necessarily. Do you think you managed to achieve that with Da’at, surprise them?
We never thought about doing something new, nor did we ever try to do it. There are too many bands around, many of which are more innovative and more experimental than us. So we do not believe we have succeeded in surprising our listeners, it has never been our purpose.
What’s the story behind the album’s title?
We wanted to enclose the essence of the album, or interpersonal research, the fall in the intellect and the universal knowledge of ourselves in one word. Da’at in Hebrew means knowledge, and is the central part of the cabalistic Tree of Life. A sort of abyss towards an introspective universe visible only to those with the ability to see it. It therefore seemed to us the most appropriate term to use.
What was the concept for the cover art? Is there a hidden meaning there?
The cover represents the cyclicity of thought, sometimes blurred by fog and emptiness. It is an abstract vision of what has ensued from the continuous listening to the tracks. Just like music, the cover also has a totally subjective vision, so it is free for any interpretation.
Secluded and atmospheric places are great for listening to Da’at. Everybody has got a spot like that for themselves. Playing Da’at on vinyl in that sort of setting would make for a perfect combination. Vinyl has an amazing analog feel to it. Would you agree with that?
We absolutely agree. We’ve always had the intention to publish Da’at on vinyl and we’ll probably do it sooner or later.
Could you share if there is a follow-up to Da’at in the works?
We are working on an EP, it’s a concept we’ve been working on for a long time, but it’s still early to talk about it. We are currently completing the tracks and will soon enter the recording studio. If everything goes according to plan, the EP will see the light in 2018.
What are your touring plans? Any chance of a visit to Poland?
We are always looking for new dates. We are currently contacting various promoters and booking agencies to promote our music abroad. If we succeed, Poland would be a nice step to do.
Thank you for the interview and we wish you long successful years with the band. Is there something else you’d like to share with our readers? The last word is yours.
This album has served us to drown into the depths of our unconscious. We hope it will be the same for those who intend to listen to us. Thank you so much for being interested in us and for the space granted to us.